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The Klan taking a moral position. Is that ironic or just stupid? Hard to believe this kind of thing still goes on.
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If anything this just means that more of the GLBT community will show up. Dumbasses.
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Maybe they are gay and just trying to hide it by using the KKK. I still can't believe this crap goes on!! GRRR
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It's sometimes a good thing when people show how dumb they really are.
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"Maybe they are gay and just trying to hide it by using the KKK" Easy to spot... They are the Klansmen wearing pastel or flower print sheets. (Hey... don't blast me for that one... I'm an equal opportunity offender. And now that I've effectively insulted both sides, I'll just be on my way...)
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It sure does go on. I was watching something the other day on the history of the KKK. It was sick to see how they STILL act. Honestly, I feel sorry for them. They have no idea what they are doing. They are completely ignorant and are only acting on what they are taught. Hopefully this news of a protest won't deter anybody from going to the park.
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So much hate in the world, why are they doing this at a theme park, where people go to get AWAY from the world.
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Couldn't have said it better myself RCT Master! Isn't the park private property? Can't they be kicked out? Even if they buy a ticket they can be removed from the park right?
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I can drive a half-hour outside of Gainesville (Gay-nesville)in virtually any direction and run into this kind of "moral superiority"....easy to spot, they generally have *rebel flags* somewhere on their vehicles. I guess being morally superior is all you get when you're a mental GIANT like those guys wearing white hoods, huh? 
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Well, when that's all you have, that's all you have and you cling to it tightly. What else are you gonna do? Admit you're a turd in the social food chain? SLFAKE: Pastel? How gauche! But the thread count is always a dead giveaway.
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I was lied to, they told me KKK was the Kentucky Kingdom Klub and we were going to hand out free passes to Six Flags. This explains the stupid uniforms. Who do I write to in order to get my membership fee back? So many problems in this world are caused by the herd-instinct.
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CoastaPlaya: Had no idea that Pastels are considered "gauche"... Had no idea about thread count either. Come to think of it, kind of glad I don't know about that stuff... boblogone: Easy mistake to make... I mean if I were a die hard Six Flags fan I'd hide my face under a hood too. *** This post was edited by SLFAKE 5/19/2004 11:21:26 AM ***
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Wow I didn't know anyone still took the KKK seriously or even tolerated them for that matter, either way this has the ability to get ugly given the rep of the KKK
*** This post was edited by Flashback0978 5/19/2004 11:21:54 AM ***
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Remember PPP2001, when the KKK showed up at Knoebels? mOOSH [relax...we were supposed to be ghosts...of coaster designers from the Golden Age...ok, so it didn't work the way we'd planned!]
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The same types protested the gay event at the San Diego zoo recently. I had my wife drive me past a couple times so I could pop out of the sunroof and call the "Naziiiiis!!!! Naaaazzzziiiiiiissss!!" They looked incredibly surprised that someone would equate them with nazis.
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Best KKK quote I ever heard from the local news: It was a story about a town that was being pressured to move its nativity scene from the town hall, town park, or where ever. The local KKK kook showed up with a protest sign. The interview went something like this: Reporter: A member of the KKK was protesting the decision to move the nativity scene from the property... KKK member: I'm here because this is a Christian country founded on Christian values... I think that the town should be allowed to keep the manorah on display. Reporter: Do you mean Manger? KKK member: Yeah... I mean come on... labeling your self a hate filled biggot is bad enough... AT the very least know the symbolism you are supporting... and if you can't do that, AT THE VERY LEAST don't get it confused with a symbol of one of the groups that your group "hates". (... then there was the story of the exceptionally dumb klansman [okay, that is redundant, I know] who kept getting tangled up in his fitted sheet...) *** This post was edited by SLFAKE 5/19/2004 11:40:43 AM ***
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Where is Will Smith and Martin Lawrence when you need them....
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Jeff said:
"Hard to believe this kind of thing still goes on."
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Ever been to Cincinnati? What's even harder to beleive is that Cincinnati allows the KKK to hold a public demonstration on Fountain Square every year.
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Just like the supporters of our current President and his administration, the KKK uses the so-called curtain of "morality and values" to justify their hate-filled, racist agendas. Remember the President wants to add a discrimination clause to the US constitution regarding marriage. He is not much better than a KKK member himself.
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When I read the headline deep down I hoped KKK would stand for Kustom Koaster Klub.... 
Its so sad that these lowlifes are still emerging from the bottoms of the cesspools of existence.
I hope that DOLLY will show up and show these morons who´s boss in her parkinglot.
You see, I am a dreamer...
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It's a legal issue - Cincinnati has to allow them to, or be sued. What makes me sad is that the KKK claims to be a Christian organization. If they'd actually pick up a Bible, they'd see that everything they believe is *completely* opposite of what Jesus taught.
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Super7: Okay... now you are making generalities. I happen to be one of those proud "supporters of our current president." No need to bring Presidential politics into this. However, IF you want to compare people in politics... why not start with Senator Robert Byrd (a Democrat) from West Virginia... an acutall living, breathing former Klansman. My personal view on this issue is this... (and I am not affraid to say it). If I know a park is having a Gay Day (official or unofficial)... I will schedule my visit for ANOTHER time (sorry, I'm not that "liberal"... I'm "tolerant"... but not "embracing") If I know that the Klan is going to be demonstrating at a park... I will schedule my visit for ANOTHER time (I'm a proud conservative... but regardless of what madame Hillary may think, not all conservatives are of the right wing extremist, hate spewing type. The far right scares me as much as the far left.) If I know that it is a Gay Day (official or unofficial) at a park, AND the Klan will be demonstrating at the park... I am not sure I even want to be in the same state, let alone be at the park on that day. (of course, it may be fun just to go and watch the fire works errupt between these two groups... And it may be a good time for "walk ons" for the rides considering many people there will be to busy standing nose to nose with each other and hurling what ever propaganda their side choses to shout in an attempt to shove both of their agenda's into the other's face)*** This post was edited by SLFAKE 5/19/2004 12:19:19 PM ***
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This is hardly a reason to keep anyone away. Me and many of my friends will be there Saturday spending money and having a blast. Yes, I concur that it is truly sad that these bottom feeders of society still exist and spread hatred. And that they do it under the guise of Christianity is even more disturbing, I think.
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SLFAKE: I'm pretty sure the gay community is out to have a good time, not advance any "agenda" they allegedly have, let alone go "nose to nose." I don't think they're there to recruit anyone into their "club." The Klan is there with an agenda. Seems kind of silly to even compare the two. The Klan can demonstrate in public. I'm OK with that, and it's their right to do so. The rest of us have the right to call them stupid and make fun of them. It all works out!
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My statement was not party related. But the current President of this country is ready to amend the US constitution in order to discriminate against this group "in the name of god" (the same god who created everyone). Just as the KKK uses their so-called morality to discriminate. Repulican, Democrate, a bigot and an racist is just that.
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Jeff: Hey... bottom line... I won't be heading out to Dollywood until around June 25. I could care less what happens there this week. Off topic, but ... Fact is, I stay away from parks on known "Gay Days", "School Days", "Girl Scout Days", "Firemen Days", "Lawyer Days", "Swedish Swim Suit Model Days" (at least now that I am happily married), or any other kind of days that will draw a crowd. I like my parks to be less busy when I visit. Super7: We are in definatel disagreement over this one. I'm letting it stand there.
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Antuan Sez:
Where is Will Smith and Martin Lawrence when you need them.... Wow. I was just thinking the same thing. freaky. But Martin would have just been shot in the @$$ again. Yes, unfortunately, the Klan is still alive and active(I live in WV, and know Klansmen, but hey, everybody knows everbody here). Its so funny, though, there isn't a KKK in the area that I live in because the population in this part of the state is predominantly black. Go a few miles up the road and its all white, and there is a Klan. But, hey, stupid is as stupid does. Hideing behind a sheet will get you nowhere. The Klan on Bad Boys 2 is exactly how they act, tobacco chew and all. Disgusting!
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20 protestors?!? big deal, i'd take that over a bunch of screaming 9 year old girls anyday
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Man, I wish that Christians didn't get so up in arms about the gay thing. If there are any Christians reading, know this: it's not our job to "convert" gay people or make sure they know what they're doing is sinning. It's our job to spread the gospel message and live our lives right. If there's anything else to be done, God will take care of it. /shakes head
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The President is just trying to keep the term marriage what is has been since the creation of man by god, a union between one man and one woman. Im totally against what the kkk is doing in there protest, but lets not kid ourselves or be in denial, both groups are there with a agenda in mind. I have been to gays days at wdw in the past and while the majority of attendee's were there to have a good time, you did have a segment that wore the same clothes so as to draw attention to themselves and were acting in a in your face manner with public displays of a sexual nature meant to draw attention to themselves.
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Well said SLFAKE, I can't agree more. As a Christian, I don't support homosexuality, but what people do is their own bussiness. I just don't like when they try to force their beliefs on me. On the other hand, it is really scary to think that we still have KKK type people running around here in this great country of ours. And there are a lot more than you think. They are really no different than the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. All they wish to do is spread hate and fear. Only cowards run around with sheets over their heads and terrorize people. If they want to say something, they should be men and take the sheet off and tell us their opinions. When I feel strongly about an issue, I write or contact my elected officials, that is how you try to get things done. What the KKK is doing actually will help gain support for the gay people.
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Bob O: Marriage has meant different things at many points in time. In fact the meaning of marriage has been pretty fluid over the centuries. Your notion that the president is trying to preserve anything is valueless. He's discriminating...and it seems that only the people he's discriminating against understand that. Call it what it is...Discrimination! CP ismyhome: Who's trying to force anything on YOU? And who is that you are that we as a minority group need to worry about pooping on your parade? After reading a few of these posts it's pretty clear which side everyone is on. You either support the KKK or those like them - the president, focus on the (straight) family, Confused women for america and countless other hate groups, or you advocate a 'liberal' or fair lifestyle that doesn't exclude persons because they are percieved as different from you or believe differently than you.
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Ugh, Because me and my girlfriend hold hands and neck a little in the park does not mean I want others to join in an orgy. People of the same sex showing affecton does not connote "I want to convert you to gayhood" And what is so wrong with their "agenda"? They are showing off their pride. Lastly, no one cares....(really... we don't) if you choose not to attend for whatever reason. The point is already made, and I doubt anyone will change their minds because of one less person in the queue! *** This post was edited by Antuan 5/19/2004 2:27:42 PM ***
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All US citizens are required to pay their taxes. All of those citizens should receive the same legal and financial benefits that marriage provides under the law.The government using the cloak of god, religion and morality to deny those legal benefits to tax paying citizens is no different than the fashion in which the KKK uses their "morality" stance to further their cause. Im surpised that the current administration has not tied this discrimination agenda into 9/11 somehow as that is what is done to get support of their other unethical policies. Countless speaches bring up 9/11 so this administration can gain the support or their policies by fear, instead of logic.
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You're not gay, 'Tuan? Wow...I must get my gaydar fixed
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LOL, No sonny, that would be a complete shock to my other half. I am in a frat though, and those intitiation processes ...well I'll stop there 
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TeknoScorpion said: "I live in WV, and know Klansmen, but hey, everybody knows everbody here" Forget knowing everybody knowing everybody in WV... isn't everybody related to everybody too? (sorry... easy WV joke... couldn't resist)
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This group is doing exactly what "groups with agendas" want, confrontation. Everyone in this group, Straight, Bi, Gay, Transgender? wants to enjoy amusement parks and roller coasters. If you focus on the fun then the "activists" loose their audience. Remember that not all gays are "sex starved" flamers and not all Christians are "war loving hate mongers". It is a shame that a small percentage of the population creates a stereotype for the entire group. I would be more concerned at Terrorists blowing up Cinderella 's Castle at the "Mouse House" Ignore them all and try to enjoy your day at the park.
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"...you did have a segment that wore the same clothes so as to draw attention to themselves and were acting in a in your face manner with public displays of a sexual nature meant to draw attention to themselves."
Huh... just like every hetero teenager ever born!I guess it's like those black people who need attention by winning basketball shooting games and Jews with nice clothes that stop to pick up pennies on the midway. [/sarcasm]
"...but lets not kid ourselves or be in denial, both groups are there with a agenda in mind."
Yeah... all groups do. I know our agenda this weekend at SFGAm is to promote safe riding and more ERT for enthusiasts. Who's with me?!
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It's all reflective of the backwards mindset of our culture. Perhaps if society as a whole were not as subjective and scrutinizing about those that live an alternate lifestyle, then those who happen to be gay and living a conservative and "moral" lifestyle would me more apt to step forward. Thus breaking the terrible stereotype that protesters seem to dwell/capitalize on. The fact is, we are all different... not one single person that ever walked the face of the earth has ever been completely identical. Even Sunday school classes teach songs about how God made us all different "Red and yellow, black and white" So any group that tries to force-fit everyone into a very narrow minded box simply contradicts the very unconditional love they are trying to profess. It's really an embarassing double standard. I cannot imgaine God or Jesus walking today's earth scrutinizing who they will or will not associate with. Heck, I'd love to have the chance to sit down with the big man upstairs and ask him a few questions regarding this. It sure would clear up a lot worry and stress that this issue churns in me. Shaggy
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I wonder if there were ever a constitutional ammendment banning gay marraige, how long it would be before atheist marraiges become illegal. Hey shaggy, why talk to God personally when you have PLENTY of folks running around who can talk to God for you?
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So the Klueless Klutzes Klan can demonstrate their stupidity and hate, but two people of the same gender can't get married (in most states). Got it! And on the marriage topic, IF the proposed admendment was truly based on biblical teachings, the proponents would actually have it worded as "between one man, one woman, one time each". But becuase a lot of churchgoers have been divorced and re-married, that'll never happen.
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Shaggy, it would be a tremendous world to live in IF everyone really SHOWED that *unconditional love* you referred to....unfortunately, most of what I see around me is QUITE conditional. God will love you IF you do (or don't do) as someone else says....what I really wanna know is who made THAT person a moral authority on ANYTHING... Sorry mister, MY God loves me regardless...and *she* loves you TOO.....
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Shaggy - here's how Jesus handled such cases. He spent time with "sinners," let them know he loved them despite their flaws, and despite the flak he took for it, and *then* he told them to straighten up. Notice that the love comes first. Robocoaster - actually, the Bible says divorce is OK in one circumstance - if one spouse is being unfaithful. I take this to mean unfaithful to marriage vows, which then could include cases of abuse, neglect, etc/
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I'd like to be serious for a moment and congratulate everyone on the civilness of this topic. Had this appeared on RRC it would have been a flame war by the second post. Of course we won't all agree but it's nice to see people agree to disagree and leave it at that and respect people different from onesself - well, except those KKK people mOOSH
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For the record... I'm not sure, but I believe that the average Klansman would support an amendment defining marriage as "between a man and an woman." However they would whole hartedly object to / protest / riot over that same amendment if it were to read "between a man and a woman who are not blood relatives" ("Gee sis... guess we's gonna hafta git a dee-vorce") *** This post was edited by SLFAKE 5/19/2004 4:56:55 PM ***
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Sorry, I didn't mean to generalize Den. I was referring to: What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Matthew 19:4-6 . As for interpretation of scripture, it's open to debate (as with all things biblical) http://www.biyn.org/divorce/divorce.html. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. Just that it's not simple. Please don't misunderstand me; I'm not trying to argumentative. I think your posts are articulate, intelligent, and compassionate. I wish more people had your integrity.
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I for one don't understand how the marriage of any two people, gay or straight, somehow trivializes my marriage. Funny... I think I still love my wife just as much as I did before Rosie went to San Francisco. I've always wondered why it is that those who oppose gay anything bring up sex first. As if being gay means you're having sex.
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I have a question - and this is a honest, serious one. What is the connection between coaster/park go'ers and strong religous beliefs? Serioiusly. This thread shows many of you have strong convictions when it comes to religion and when I visit parks I see tons of "Pray Hard" or similar religous shirts on people (that I normally don't see people wearing in everyday life) I'm not trying to take this any more off topic, but the thread is going in a way that it finally felt right to ask something I've been wondering for years. My personal beliefs lie between atheist and agnostic - leaning more towards atheist (just for the record). I really don't want to get involved in this discussion because I have very strong beliefs and one you get me started I'm not EVER going to stop. But basically, is there a reason for the connection between many park enthusiasts/fans and strong religous beliefs or is it coincedental or what?
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How is any homosexual going to outdo Brittney Spears, J-Lo or Liz Taylor when it comes to trivializing marriage? And let's not even bring up the Fox Network. *cringes* -CO
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^You forgot Anna Nicole Smith. But the other three ladies you mentioned are clearly female impersonators!
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Lord Gonchar, I think people wear their religious shirts and such to parks and fairs and other venues because they think that in a way that they may be reaching out to people without really preaching to them. There will be a lot of people who see your shirt at a place like a park or a state fair or something like that.
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Just for the record, there most likely won't be much confrontation like some are expecting. If it's anything like the Gay Days here in Cali where the right wing religious fanatics show up to protest, demonstrations of any sort are not allowed on park property. They usually hang out on the street near the parking entrance and spew their ignorance and hatred to passing park patrons and motorist. Since they're obviously there for attention, the best thing to do is just ignore them and go about having a fun day.
Perhaps if society as a whole were not as subjective and scrutinizing about those that live an alternate lifestyle, then those who happen to be gay and living a conservative and "moral" lifestyle would me more apt to step forward. Thus breaking the terrible stereotype that protesters seem to dwell/capitalize on.
Shaggy makes a great point. For those that feel us Gays have an agenda and shove our views in others faces, that is exactly how allot of us feel about the right wing religious fanatics in this country. If they would just practice what they preach, just live and let live instead of forcing their beliefs and agendas on everyone else, there would be absolutely no reason for us to have to fight and protest for the most basic civil rights that every other tax paying citizen in this country gets to enjoy. http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=16001alo And remember, just because one group of people doesn't agree with something doesn't make it right. When our very own narrow minded president is amending the constitution to discriminate against his very own citizens, would any one of you do anything less if the tables were turned? http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=16523 *** This post was edited by jomo 5/19/2004 8:00:23 PM ***
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Gay marriage should be allowed/required, can't the "Right" see that it will reduce the amount of sex amoung homosexuals the same way it does for heterosexuals? Doesn't the bible state stoning as the punishment for adultery? Or was that just for the women? The amount of weed needed to punish the politicians alone is mind boggling.
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Another reason why one might see lots of "Pray Hard" and similar T-shirts in amusement parks is that church youth groups tend to descend upon theme parks en masse. I suspect that the T-shirts are merely a form of self-identification. Imagine if one of them got caught behind an enthusiast wearing Gonchar's latest shirt...lol!!
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What I don't get is that since gays are having so many roadblocks getting married, why not just invent a new institution? (Like marriage, but just named something different with "rules" tweaked to allow alternative lifestyles) Just an idea, not sure if it would ever fly though) *** This post was edited by RCT_MASTER 5/19/2004 8:23:30 PM ***
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Why does every park have to have a Gay Day? IF not to push their agenda down the the throats of people who are opposed to their lifestyle. I take objection when everyone starts jumping down the throats of the KKK. I admit that they have done things wrong in the past and I am from Tennessee. Let's look at the other extremist organizations like the NAACP, black panthers just to name a few. I dare anyone to go down to Disney when they have Gay Days, you will see how the gays really act when gather in a large group. Just recently in Rhea County, the gays and lesbians claimed to be bringing close to 5,000 for the offical gay day in rhea. Guess what, only 150 showed up and got a city owned park to boot for the day. You claim that everyone is backwards for thinking that we should be separate. That's bull****. I am 37 years old, served my country in the military and saw happens when you have different races in a single country. You get a country that is on the way down. I don't believe all that the KKK stand for but I do agree with some. If any other group can protest why not them. IT's a free country. Jan, I read your post and laughed when you wanted to shout Nazi at the people protesting Gay Day at the San Diego Zoo. Maybe you are in favor of Nambla which advocates in raping young boys. There is a few extreme gay groups out there as well.
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Imagine if one of them got caught behind an enthusiast wearing Gonchar's latest shirt...lol!!
Ha! We've road tested that shirt at a couple of parks and it certainly gets a reaction. Always good, of course You're probably onto something with the sheer number of youth/church groups that frequent parks. For some reason that never occured to me.
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What I don't get is that since gays are having so many roadblocks getting married, why not just invent a new institution?
The common (and not at all inaccurate) rebuttal is that history has shown that there can't be such a thing as "separate but equal." "Separate" is never equal.
Maybe you are in favor of Nambla which advocates in raping young boys. There is a few extreme gay groups out there as well.
Just an FYI, but most child molesters do not identify as homosexual. I'm sure many members of NAMBLA do not identify as homosexual either. Additionally, I'm quite sure the vast majority of homosexuals do not agree with or condone NAMBLA's agenda. To blame homosexuals for NAMBLA would be like blaming heterosexuals for an organization of men who wanted to sleep with little girls. Reading your post, I have to laugh at your comment about visiting WDW during "gay days." Although I have not done so, I also have a hard time believing you have. From what I hear, things are pretty calm. I'd imagine you could easily count more heterosexuals making out on any given summer day at Cedar Point than homosexuals making out during WDW "gay days." I don't think I've seen anyone here saying the KKK doesn't have a right to protest. I'd imagine most of the Dollywood unofficial gay day attendees would not say they don't have the right to protest either. Most homosexuals are pretty used to the protesters and bigots. I'm sure most won't even flinch at the KKK. -Nate*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 5/19/2004 8:49:55 PM ***
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TNCoaster said:
Let's look at the other extremist organizations like the NAACP...just to name a few
Yes, let's look at them. What's the NAACP's agenda? Teachin' people black folks are just as good as white folks? Letting them get good jobs? Better education so they can move into big ol' houses? Corrupt the pure white race by having their way with the womenfolk?
Spell it all out for us. We're listening... -CO
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He can't because I banned him. Standing by your religious beliefs is one thing, but sympathizing with the KKK i | |